Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN

Discussion:

Robert McGwier

2016-05-24 21:59:19 UTC

During the eclipse next year we will undertake a ham radio based study of
the Ionosphere using RBN.

http://hamsci.org/article/hamsci-eclipse-team-meets-dayton

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Guy Olinger K2AV

2016-05-26 00:24:03 UTC

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This sounds really interesting. Should be able to ramp up a mob of activity
for that. 160 up through VHF. Be very interesting to see if edge of eclipse
is a propagation enhancer.

Too bad eclipse isn't ten days later on Field Day. That would be a flood of
data for free.

We'll start talking this one up. Reserving a vacation day to operate.

Also may need a module in N1MM to match the science questions and rules.

Post by Robert McGwier
During the eclipse next year we will undertake a ham radio based study of
the Ionosphere using RBN.
http://hamsci.org/article/hamsci-eclipse-team-meets-dayton
73s
N4HY
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Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc
Research Professor Virginia Tech
Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and
Technology
Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
Director of AMSAT
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Jim

2016-05-30 19:46:24 UTC

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Why waste time and energy with RBN stuff. We have the tool that does 90% of the work for us an no one uses it because it is digital. WHISPER is the perfect tool. If everyone would put their SSB transmitter a WHISPER frequency for 24 yrs before and after the eclipse we would have more data than anyone could ever want. Then all you have to do is download the data and start crunching with a computer program or manually... whichever is your to your liking. If this were done over the entire world you could filter out what you didnt want or even see how the propagation on the other side of the planet was during the eclipse.

If you have not looked at this program... it was written by Nobel Laureate ( Physics ) Joe Taylor K1JT here is the web site:
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wspr.html

Jim

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Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 20:24:03 -0400
From: Guy Olinger K2AV <***@gmail.com>
To: Robert McGwier <***@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN

This sounds really interesting. Should be able to ramp up a mob of activity
for that. 160 up through VHF. Be very interesting to see if edge of eclipse
is a propagation enhancer.

Too bad eclipse isn't ten days later on Field Day. That would be a flood of
data for free.

We'll start talking this one up. Reserving a vacation day to operate.

Also may need a module in N1MM to match the science questions and rules.

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Dave Blaschke, w5un

2016-05-30 20:57:58 UTC

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This is why. I want to know who is calling CQ on there.

Dave

Post by Jim
Why waste time and energy with RBN stuff. We have the tool that does 90% of the work for us an no one uses it because it is digital. WHISPER is the perfect tool. If everyone would put their SSB transmitter a WHISPER frequency for 24 yrs before and after the eclipse we would have more data than anyone could ever want. Then all you have to do is download the data and start crunching with a computer program or manually... whichever is your to your liking. If this were done over the entire world you could filter out what you didnt want or even see how the propagation on the other side of the planet was during the eclipse.
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wspr.html
Jim
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Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 20:24:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN
This sounds really interesting. Should be able to ramp up a mob of activity
for that. 160 up through VHF. Be very interesting to see if edge of eclipse
is a propagation enhancer.
Too bad eclipse isn't ten days later on Field Day. That would be a flood of
data for free.
We'll start talking this one up. Reserving a vacation day to operate.
Also may need a module in N1MM to match the science questions and rules.

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Robert McGwier

2016-06-16 06:18:02 UTC

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I agree WSPR is the perfect tool and it is my task to bring WSPR together
for the eclipse effort.

Bob
N4HY

Post by Jim
Why waste time and energy with RBN stuff. We have the tool that does 90%
of the work for us an no one uses it because it is digital. WHISPER is the
perfect tool. If everyone would put their SSB transmitter a WHISPER
frequency for 24 yrs before and after the eclipse we would have more data
than anyone could ever want. Then all you have to do is download the data
and start crunching with a computer program or manually... whichever is
your to your liking. If this were done over the entire world you could
filter out what you didnt want or even see how the propagation on the other
side of the planet was during the eclipse.
If you have not looked at this program... it was written by Nobel Laureate
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wspr.html
Jim
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 20:24:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN
This sounds really interesting. Should be able to ramp up a mob of activity
for that. 160 up through VHF. Be very interesting to see if edge of eclipse
is a propagation enhancer.
Too bad eclipse isn't ten days later on Field Day. That would be a flood of
data for free.
We'll start talking this one up. Reserving a vacation day to operate.
Also may need a module in N1MM to match the science questions and rules.

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Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc
Research Professor Virginia Tech
Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for National Security and
Technology
Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
Director of AMSAT
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Hardy Landskov

2016-05-30 20:31:37 UTC

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Should be 24 hrs--right?
N7RT

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Subject: Re: Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN

Why waste time and energy with RBN stuff. We have the tool that does 90% of
the work for us an no one uses it because it is digital. WHISPER is the
perfect tool. If everyone would put their SSB transmitter a WHISPER
frequency for 24 yrs before and after the eclipse we would have more data
than anyone could ever want. Then all you have to do is download the data
and start crunching with a computer program or manually... whichever is your
to your liking. If this were done over the entire world you could filter out
what you didnt want or even see how the propagation on the other side of the
planet was during the eclipse.

If you have not looked at this program... it was written by Nobel Laureate (
Physics ) Joe Taylor K1JT here is the web site:
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wspr.html

Jim

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Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 20:24:03 -0400
From: Guy Olinger K2AV <***@gmail.com>
To: Robert McGwier <***@gmail.com>
Cc: "***@contesting. com" <***@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: OT: Studying the ionosphere using RBN

This sounds really interesting. Should be able to ramp up a mob of activity
for that. 160 up through VHF. Be very interesting to see if edge of eclipse
is a propagation enhancer.

Too bad eclipse isn't ten days later on Field Day. That would be a flood of
data for free.

We'll start talking this one up. Reserving a vacation day to operate.

Also may need a module in N1MM to match the science questions and rules.

Post by Robert McGwier
During the eclipse next year we will undertake a ham radio based study
of the Ionosphere using RBN.
http://hamsci.org/article/hamsci-eclipse-team-meets-dayton
73s
N4HY
--
Bob McGwier
Founder, Federated Wireless, Inc
Founder and Technical Advisor, HawkEye 360, Inc Research Professor
Virginia Tech Chief Scientist: The Ted and Karyn Hume Center for
N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn.
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W7RH

2016-06-18 00:26:14 UTC

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I found the discussion listed by N4HY to be an interesting read.

In 1979 thee was a total solar eclipse of the Western US which occurred
several hours after sunrise. The solar display was incredible and radio
propagation was very much so enhanced on 160 with openings to East Coast
of the US and mid-West.

Bob,

W7RH

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N***@comcast.net

2016-06-18 03:24:38 UTC

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I went to tHel PNW to view this total solar eclipse. Found a place about 1 hour east of Portland, Ore a few miles south of the Columbia River Gorge with low horizons with clear skies, a rare event. At sunrise birds started singing and 10M opened to the east coast. As the eclipse started to occur causing sunset (it was maybed out 8:30 to 9:00 AM PST, the birds stopped singing, the 10M opening to the eASeAST COAST WENT AWAY

Arne N7KA
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